We're joined by two leading thinkers to help us try and answer this question. mat stoller is director of research at the american economic liberties project, cherrill sandburg is a former policy adviser to the senate budget committee. In just the moment, we're going to hear an opening statement from each of them to see where they stand on the ques n. And from there, i'll moderate a discussion between them, wher we will draw out some of the themes in greater depth.

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