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The Rise of the Elite
Sally Kohn: I think there's something else though, and you put your finger on it right up front with incentives. She says the university system as we understand it today kind of got organized when people learned how to structure giant bureaucracies. Kohn: We built these games, we built these systems that then people insert into. And if I, you know, enter as a low level position at a giant company, I'm able to play this game over 30 years to rise up and come to CEO.