"If you would be willing to interview people or free like maybe you should be a podcaster if you'd be willing to write into the void for a year and a half," she says. "I still sort of evaluate opportunities that way it's like if I'm like saying to myself but the money will be nice that's like kind of a cue to like not do it which is fascinating because society told us the opposite yeah" If you are doing something that you would do for free you're on the path to success, Oprah said.
Billy Oppenheimer is a writer. He is also the research assistant for Ryan Holiday.
In this conversation, we spoke about the future of AI and writing, playing the long game, why everything is a remix, what he learned driving Robert Greene from the airport, and why the work is the win.