I would say Facebook is being really disingenuous saying... Mark Zuckerberg raised it with me eight years ago and it was scared about the competition, not national security. The stuff has been built and the software's been made. It's almost impossible to read. They'd have to build it from the ground up. That's what everyone from Microsoft and Oracle told me. I think we should just have this kind of self-respect ... TikTok should be banned in every democracy.

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