We come to think obligations are not real. Nor am i not obligated to you? Sit isan obligation, a fiction. Wereis an obligation as real as something like gravity. And without god watching over us, and the threat of the after life, and all these things which religion provided as ways of shoring upThese ethical frameworks. That's a deeper conversation what those things actually mean, and what onthology do need to have a coherent ethics?

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