Jasper asks jamie whether there was a turning point in the last 20 years for things to have gone very differently. And which decision on the part of a government and b, the te es could have made things go different. Jamie: I think what we are faced with is a sort of generational problem in the way that we think about technology. The market individualist mind set, i think, became intrenched. We're going to have to unlearn a lot of the things that that generation took for granted as being a naturally good thing.

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