Are You Trying to Say Something New? Or Is It Just a New Argument?

A lot of that rhetoric, it feels like, oh, wow, I mean, they were saying something new. They really weren't. You go back to Friedrich Nietzsche. He's making basically the same argument on existentialist grounds that Dawkins and Dennett and Harris and Hitchens make on either political or what they would say scientific. We're not trying to say that in the early 2000s, a group of guys got together and wrote some books and they broke ground on an idea that had never been suggested or communicated. And then we found ourselves.