Kristi Jutman is the host of Brown Girl Green, a podcast about environmental issues and solutions. This week she talks with Josie or Jocelyn G., who says they are looking for green jobs but didn't necessarily study to do so. Kristi: Could you tell us more about your career journey of getting into a green job without necessarily having a degree in the green space? And yeah, just lead us through that. I'm working to change the image of what it means to be an environmentalist in the 21st century.