59. Black Liberation & Animal Liberation with Christopher Sebastian
Total Liberation
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The Real Change Is Coming When Black and Brown People Are in the Room
"We do recognize that the real change actually comes when black and brown people are in the room where it happens, if you will. And like, and I didn't see anybody actually making that change because now that would have been far too radical," she said. "I'm not going to name names because that would be that would be petty like far better than I normally am."
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