Sarkozy reversed the whole flow and I think it was Sarkozy who put France back in NATO. Now it's Macron, I hope because he was talking to Putin would at least have an independent viewpoint that could be helpful here. He rolled it up. He may have told Putin something else, but within days he had rolled it up and gone along with the United States position. The propaganda, as I say, I don't know how much time you spent in America, but it was vicious and everything was anti-Russian. Russia were killing all these people, shooting down civilians, although there was no proof of it. These are the accidents of war, but all of a sudden it

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