I think I mean something a little bit different than what you interpreted me as meaning because I'm not talking about emotions like anger and anxiety and things like that. And so what I often take people to be doing when they're making moral judgments is they're thinking about a state of the world or an action or a person and then they're experiencing some experience of it being good or bad. Then they can make proclamations like that's bad or that's immoral or whatever. So would you say people are consulting their normative phenomenology? When a person's considering something like murder or abortion, they're considering their subjective experience of how that seems to them. That part of how when they

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