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The Mark of Blanket Partition in a Suip or a Soup
There might be a strong emergence in play here. So at what level is self organization happening? Not that you can't answer that question, is at all levels. The context of self organization at one spacio temporal scale depends sensitively and critically on the primate sthat define the initial conditions and the flow operators. And likewise, the scale above has to conform to exactly the same dynamics. It has to have things in it. I think that's how you'd get out of the erer get into a more plastic er, semi marcovian universa, biological universe,. You'd start the real questions of auto puesis.