Navigating Market Saturation and Listener Engagement

The Verge’s Victoria Song joins the show to talk about a new genre of gadget, which both she and David have been testing a lot: the AI-powered, always-on voice recorder. Vee shares what she’s learned from devices like Bee, and why it’s going to be so hard for AI to figure out what really matters in our lives. After that, The Verge’s Nathan Edwards and keyboard maker Ryan Norbauer tell the story of the Seneca, a $3,600 keyboard that Norbauer built to his own incredibly exacting specifications. They tell David about what it really takes to make a great keyboard, and why making one is worth the effort. Finally, in the lightning round (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!), we answer a couple of questions about the future of Chrome.

Further reading:

• Bee review: I outsourced my memory to AI and all I got was fanfiction
• The Plaude NotePin is a great AI voice recorder, and it’s totally doomed
• Friend: a new digital companion for the AI age
• The Norbauer Seneca
• The $3,600 keyboard that’s optimized for joy.
• Why are companies lining up to buy Chrome?
• Sundar Pichai says the DOJ’s antitrust plan could kill Google Search

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