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Introduction
i talk to logan bartlett, an investor at red point ventures. He's a managing there and he also is the host of the cartoon avatars podcast. We talked about how he grew his padcastandand all sorts of fun things. i don't think it's clear at all that we've found any sort of bottom yet in public markets. And then second, i want to spend a lot of time talking about carto navitars and your twitter and tick tak.