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i suspect many listeners will disagree with some of the things that john mc warters argued in the second half of our conversation. But my suggestion is to heed his advice and o sit with his argument, debateit, talk about it. No, i'm probably not qualified to weigh in on the question of good or evil, but what i can say with certainty is t gamic border is definitely not stupid. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next week.