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A mind-expanding conversation with Michael Pollan

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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What Is Lighting Up Your Brain?

David Frum: I think a place where people, the materialists have made hay of this is that the idea of a spiritual experience was part of the experience it had some bearing on an afterlife. He says if there's going to be something for us after we have dissolved into dust, then it has to somehow exist outside of us. "I came to think of spiritual experience as really being a function of connection and feeling connected to things outside me in a really profound way," he says.

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