The Importance of Real Conversations

I feel like I like doing the pod because I like having conversations. And that's why I refuse to do it online as well. Because I don't want it to be another online thing, even though post online. But the experience of doing it has to be real. There's a big stigma around going from YouTube to making music. When I was 18, 17, he was like, bro, this is sick. Jamal hit me up. Fucking legend, bro. Met him. He really was the one that got me like, you know, just boost the confidence with it all. Like my jungle DJ dad and brother have always been huge in their own right. So it's

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