Is there the danger that 20, 30 years from now, people look back and simply see a rock as a successful us? I think self respecting storian would be able to say is that what the united states did was well prosecuted. You know, you have to break eggs t to make an omelet, and this was just what it had to look like. And once the lessons of everything, you know, sort of ham handed that had been done, had been applied, we were able again, to stagger ourselves into some kind of solvent political structure.

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