Is It Possible That This Could Be Real?

"I don't know that how much of it's real and then you get a little more interested to start all right well I'll start practicing this meditation thing or whatever and nothing happens because it doesn't happen fast like other things. Then maybe you've made you brush shoulders with something and you realize fuck wait a minute it's it's real," he says. "It can be daunting to experience that but it also can it is also a sign that true meditation is taking place."