The church was so critical in our childhood. It almost couldn't be mine initially before my parents came out when really, if you had met our family at that point, when I was like 15, 16 years old, you would have seen pain. But we didn't know what the rough time is, so we collectively did not do a good job of communicating it. And now layer on top of that, my mother's massive depression and her undiagnosed PTSD and my father's absence. yeah, it was like a, it was a mess.

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