S mm, e, chief, great officer at the mcristas. I do a lot of that, the development of relationships. If if i did anything right, it was i didn't run out and breed a bunch of sales books. The world has shifted over the last ten to 15 years, and its going ontinue to change. And so my proposition is the way tha organization has structured in the behaviors that have extended from that maybe for the last 60 years, is less and less relevant every day. It's a pretty big argument.

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