Introduction

Elizabeth holmes is accused of fraudulently claiming she had a product in production. She was just 21 at the time, and her product kept changing. Her boasts to doctor gunn were the wishful thinking of naive and inexperienced entreperneur who underestimated and papered over challenges. On today's episode we'll hear from two people who saw how elizabeth was drawn to a type of entripener ship that led her down a path to crime.