Today we're embarking on a journey that feels deeply personal to me, one that bridges my childhood in New Delhi, India, with the cutting-edge science of human optimization.

From ages four to eight, I lived in India, where I was first exposed to yoga, Ayurveda, and a way of seeing the body not as a machine, but as an intelligent, conscious system in constant dialogue with nature. Those early impressions planted seeds that have shaped my entire approach to health and human potential.

Today, I'm honored to welcome someone who has spent over 40 years building bridges between that ancient Ayurvedic wisdom and modern science, Dr. John Douillard. As a chiropractor, certified Ayurvedic practitioner, and founder of LifeSpa.com, Dr. John has worked alongside Deepak Chopra, trained medical doctors in Ayurvedic medicine, and served as Director of Player Development for the NBA's Brooklyn Nets, where he was the first in the West to apply Ayurvedic principles to elite athletic performance.

He's the author of seven books, including the bestsellers Eat Wheat and Body, Mind, and Sport, and his work explores some of the most fascinating intersections I can imagine: quantum physics and consciousness, the gut-brain axis, seasonal microbiomes, and how practices like nose breathing can literally change our nervous system's relationship to stress.

This conversation is going to stretch us, intellectually, spiritually, and practically. So wherever you are right now, take a deep breath through your nose, and let's dive in.

Episode Highlights

02:00 — Introduction: Ariane welcomes Dr. John Douillard and explores what drew him from sports medicine into the world of Ayurveda.

04:00 — The turning point: how meditation transformed his athletic performance and life direction.

06:00 — From Boulder to India: closing his practice to study Ayurveda, meeting Deepak Chopra, and bridging ancient wisdom with modern science.

08:00 — Early resistance in Western medicine and the blind spots of reductionist science.

11:00 — What Ayurveda truly is: the science and truth of life, harmony with circadian rhythms, and the body as an instrument for perceiving subtle energy.

15:00 — Seasonal eating and microbial intelligence: how microbes in soil and food shift with the seasons and why our gut should too.

19:00 — The two-way relationship between soil microbes and gut health.

22:00 — The brain as a digestive organ: gut–brain lymphatic systems and why diaphragmatic breathing is key to mental clarity and immune health.

26:00 — “Stop bubble-wrapping your diet”: why digestive resilience matters more than dietary purity.

29:00 — Scientific studies on wheat, gut diversity, and hormesis: why exposure builds strength.

32:00 — Lessons from Amish children and immunity: the hormetic power of natural exposure.

34:00 — Emotional ama: how unprocessed emotions become toxicity in the body.

35:00 — Ayurvedic psychology, rites of passage, and the art of giving without expectation.

39:00 — Epigenetic effects of love and generosity; how kindness changes our biology.

43:00 — Love, boundaries, and compassion: the difference between kindness and niceness.

47:00 — Biophotons: light emissions from DNA and their role in coherence, intention, and healing.

52:00 — Prayer as “technology”: coherence, intention, and quantum entanglement in healing.

58:00 — Quantum healing, consciousness, and the bridge between field and physiology.

01:03:00 — Placebo as real magic: consciousness reorganizing matter.

01:06:00 — Microbiome evolution, altruism, and how love literally changes our biology.

01:08:00 — Three daily non-negotiables:

• Morning meditation or prayer for inner–outer silence

• Diaphragmatic “flossing” to activate lymphatic detox and brain clarity

• Largest meal at midday for optimal digestion and metabolic rhythm

01:11:00 — Why biohacking and Ayurveda converge on longevity and self-realization.

01:13:00 — Closing reflections: the integration of science and spirit, healing the one to heal the whole.

Resources

Life Spa https://lifespa.com/

BOOKS https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00Q5V6ML4

PODCAST https://lifespa.com/podcast/

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dr.douillard

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lifespa/

TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@johndouillard

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