It's also good just an excuse. Especially now we're kind of getting to the age where everyone's having kids getting married and stuff it's an excuse to just get together and just hang out and talk about star wars back

in the day

yeah yeah yeah

you have to find the excuses these days don't you yeah

it's a challenge this is what we yeah man look i'm sorry honey a podcast tonight i gotta go it's

in the calendar yeah oh man yeah so uh so jack tell us a little bit about yourself um what what um what was your what was your like entry to star wars i mean like back when you first you know but you know i mean i assume you're a fan so um like what was you know the movie that kind of kick-started your fandom and you know what's what's your favorite film any good memories surrounding that i

mean i've been a fan since i was a little boy like genuinely as long as i can remember i don't know when i picked up the v uh the vhs's as a kid but it would have been in the sort of early 90s probably um and uh me and my brother just used to watch them and watch them we literally wore the v down watching them so much and spent our whole childhood just pretending we were in Star Wars, you know. So, yeah. So, like, it started early. It's one of those weird things where it's just felt like a part of my life, my entire life. And I can't really remember a time before I loved Star Wars you know yeah

yeah and

it's sort of in in a weird way and I wonder if you feel this as well it's like in my rational brain knows that Star Wars isn't real real but there is a chunk of my brain which kind of that universe lives in that chunk of my brain and in that chunk of my brain is like 100 real yeah i totally know what you're talking about yeah

for sure like it's i think like for myself i think that comes down of being such just a big part of one's childhood i have so many very fond memories you know yeah the special editions came out and then the prequels and getting like lego star wars is all very like ingrained in my psyche so it's just yeah even to this day like it's just a kind of an escape to like a peaceful time yeah you

know yeah it's interesting that you were in that way too because um i i just finished playing a video game the other day with with with my spouse with my wife and uh we played uh through it takes two which is you know a very popular game done by Hazel something studios produced by EA. Really good game. And in the story, it's like these two characters that are kind of trying to fix their marriage reluctantly. And they're towards the end of the game, like the counselor sort of character, you have to send you on a challenge to sort of recoup your passion. And it's completely unrelated to the other character in the story. It's just, you know, they're, he's trying to kind of re spark them together and kind of explains like, look, if you take passion, your passion out of your your life, that's a piece of you that's gone. That's a piece of you that's missing. And I think for a lot of us Star Wars fans, like that's a passion of ours, right? Oh, yeah. You know, as soon as you remove that from us, you know, like you said jack like it's a piece that kind of lives within us that's a part of us and it's been been with us like all our lives from for quite a few of us you know and have so many memories attached to it that it's weird to think of a life you know not being a star wars fan no

for sure yeah and like not to change the course of this uh what you're talking about josh but admittedly when i see what all these different IPs and things coming out for this next generation, I see all the competition that Star Wars has. I'm like, I'm, I guess part of me is going to be sad if it's not as big as for like this next generation has been for the last like 50

years or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, yeah. So, uh, Jack, what, um, what's, what's a random question for you what's the most recent thing that you've seen from from uh just the star wars worlds that uh that's been like a standout for you it's like there's like a book or a comic or a show or a movie that you know you've just been like oh that's that that hits the right spot for me a

couple of weeks ago i started playing um outlaws the the new game yeah and um i just uh i really love the worlds they've created in that is that the kind of detail and stuff is amazing i kind of uh really enjoying just sort of floating around and just like looking at shit not necessarily playing the game that much but just like looking at the stuff and going oh

wow that's cool yeah that's awesome yeah certainly good for that but

of course like um you know when mandalorian came out um you know first live action star wars for for a little while oh well tv anyway and uh i was super stoked by that i just loved the way it looked and just it kind of it kind of had that sort of amazing sci-fi thing where you're not quite sure what's going on, but you, you're totally engaged in it. And it was, uh, yeah, the right level of kind of funny and great action sequences. And it just looked beautiful. It looked kind of ethereal and, and, uh, just felt very kind of very, what Star Wars is to me. It felt very Star Wars to me

yeah no that's totally fair i think i had very

similar feelings yeah

and then there's just something about just that old west vibe they just yeah

the western yeah yeah yeah totally which is what it you know i

mean it's it's it's what everyone says isn't it but it's a space western and and that's uh yeah that's what we love it's the genre on the nose yeah yeah you know it's Han Solo. It's a sort of, yeah, gunwielding. Yeah, exactly. Western guy and we love him. Oh, totally, yeah.

No, 100%. And I think also just like the initial impressions left everyone when A New Hope came out and just being out, you know, in this desert wasteland. It's kind of put your all just right into that old west vibe yeah there's a special place in our our hearts for sandy wastelands yeah

yeah exactly that's a tangent but like i was thinking the other day about how you know uh han solo shoots greedo under the table or does he? But I really miss that kind of thing in Star Wars these days in terms of that's such a badass move, and it's such a sort of mean thing to do as well, but we sort of love him for it at the same time. Yeah. And I kind of miss that sort of, that real scallywag, scoundrel, scumbag vibe that he brought to that original movie.

Yeah, so true. It's hard to find a new Harrison Ford, you know. It's definitely the way

he does it,

because as we're seeing in the Andor series, there's definitely like some scummy stuff going on, but it's not in the way that Han Solo or Harrison Ford presented it. Right. There's that side of him, but there's also this kind of like kooky fumbling side as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every character is so different. I remember having a moment similar to that, but different when in the first, in the pilot for the Mandalorian, and he just drags that guy with his retention cable through the closing circular door. And, you know know he essentially just gets cut in half right I was like yeah whoa that was sick yeah so awesome

yeah yeah because the world should feel dangerous it should feel dangerous and um you know life doesn't cost a lot in the in the Star Wars universe and that that's kind of yeah

that's exciting for sure so good point can you uh just explain to our audience just kind of like what you do and, you know,

what your

involvement has been with Star Wars recently?

So yeah, I played Pip, the droid in The Acolyte. So he's Osha's kind of right hand man. And he's this kind of cute uh spiky little uh guy that lives on her belt essentially and is is this kind of uh leatherman crossed sort of with best friend kind of vibe and um yeah i had the most amazing time it was just one of the coolest things i've ever done uh yeah definitely in my career just the coolest thing because as a fan, you know, stepping onto those sets and just kind of authoring this character and just being able to let my imagination kind of live in that world for the kind of six or eight months or whatever it was, was just joyous.