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E12: Tim Urban on Liberalism, Heresy, and Equality

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Conflict Between Liberty and Equality

Sally Kohn: I see your book in the spirit of mistake theory, which is we need to have better conversations. But I do also wonder if there is just a fundamental conflict in liberalism between liberty and equality. And even the term equality, you know, has two definitions of it that are in contradictory. She says this tension seems centered to so many things, because the more freedom you have, the less equality you have.Kohn: The liberal democracy is a freedom equality compromise as well as a freedom safety compromise.

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