i want to play a little bit of audio here that is from my conversation with michel below, the lead researcher on this new study. People are more open to changing their views if they they are choosing whether or not to engage or to continue the conversation. And it's one of the most strangely e i can tell you this from lots of experiences talking about this with people and doing workshops and things. It's really difficult in the subjective experience to not engage in the kind of behaviour that will cause a person to push away from you. So join more than two million people who have taken charge of their mental health with the help of an experienced professional. Get ten % off their first month at