Thomas Hübl is joined by renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, Michael Meade. They discuss transformation as an essential element of life, and how embracing radical transformation—both personally and as a collective—allows us to get in touch with our deeper selves.

Michael draws on his knowledge of ancient rites of passage, mythology, and initiation rituals to help define the liminal space humanity finds itself in right now. As we stand on a cultural and environmental threshold, we have a choice: either let go of our egos and open our wounds to be cleansed and healed, or resist change and remain disconnected from life, death, and nature itself.

He and Thomas also explore what it means to be an elder across different cultures, how seemingly apocalyptic turmoil is really a lifting of the veil, and the divine value of stepping into the unknown.

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Michael Meade D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples.

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👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.org

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

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