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Amanda Ripley — Stepping out of "the zombie dance" we're in, and into "good conflict" that is, in fact, life-giving

On Being with Krista Tippett

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What Do You Admire in Conflict?

I think this is the thing that's hardest to talk about because people don't believe you typically but when you actually are in the presence of good conflict with people you really profoundly disagree with there's something euphoric about it. I ended the book with a woman named Martha Aklesburg who is lives in New York City and went on this very unusual like three-day home stay exchange to visit conservatives in Michigan. She told me she wants to be the way I showed up there all the time in my life open curious able to be surprised. It was not an easy experience and I think somehow it's easy to sort of gloss over that it was upsetting at times frightening at times angering at

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