The Last Step Before Getting a Series as an Actor

Joaquin's mom worked at NBC for a casting director named Joel Therm. This was the office where when you were going in to do a network test, which is the last step before you get a series as an actor. So Joaquin's mom was, was on his desk. She was sitting at the desk right there where you're sitting,. waiting just like dying with anxiety right before you're supposed to go in there. And so we would visit and Joel was always just so sweet. That's probably where I remember really being exposed to TV and, and shows, TV shows was in Joel's office because we would watch all the reruns. He had every tape of every NBC