How Do You Look at the Ocean?

"I would like to say that the suffering of Iraqis while it is to a certain extent exceptionally harsh and gruesome is also the story of the global self," he says. "Despite that, you are only a human being. So if you see suffering, it's on there and you feel terrible about it." He advises people not to be fatalistic: "It's only suffering and then it happened and then now there is more more more suffering" 'This sort of places deeply disturbing events into the wider history,' he adds.