Reflections on Grief and Societal Change

This episode contains strong language.

Gemma Lopez, 10, watched a movie in class that day. Jacob Albarado, a Border Patrol officer, was getting his hair cut when he heard there was a gunman at his daughter’s school, where his wife is a teacher. Ricardo Garcia, a hospital groundskeeper, can still hear the screaming of parents in the emergency room.

These are some of the stories of those who lived through the devastation of the shooting at Robb Elementary School.

Guest: Rick Rojas, a national correspondent for The New York Times; Natalie Kitroeff, a correspondent for The Times; and Eduardo Medina, a reporter covering breaking news for The Times. 

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Background reading: 

• A week after the shooting, the nearly two dozen funerals have begun in a community that must contemplate an agonizing new reality.
• As soon as the scale of the tragedy became clear, congregants rushed to Sacred Heart Catholic Church. In the days since, they’ve kept going in search of comfort and community.

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