Are You Building a Skyscraper?

"I wout encourage people to listen or watch the episode that mike and i first did together back in 20 20. We shot it beautifully, transformation church, before the world changed," he says. "It tells a lot of the story. I love this." He then asks his listeners what kind of faith they have: vacant lot, faith, portapoty, faith, trailer, home, fixer upper, mansion, or skyscraper? Do you want to talk about that? Because it's just a brilliant matrix.