In this episode of New Ideal Live, Onkar Ghate and Agustina Vergara Cid discuss recent controversies surrounding immigrants and allegations that they are abusing the welfare state, and they explain what an objective approach to thinking about immigration and welfare involves. Among the topics covered: How to evaluate the purported data about immigrants and use of welfare services; How to avoid falling into pragmatism and collectivism in the debate on immigration and the welfare state; The abundance of misinformation about immigration and where it comes from; The perverse views of both the right and the left on this issue; The migrant crisis in New York City; The importance of distinguishing between asylum seekers and immigrants who come seeking a better life; The welcoming attitude toward immigrants in America that the welfare state threatens; Milton Friedman’s views on immigration and the welfare state; The proposal of preventing immigrants from accessing the welfare state; The importance of making it easier for immigrants to work. The podcast was recorded on December 1, 2023. Listen to the discussion below. Listen and subscribe from your mobile device on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or Stitcher. Watch archived podcasts here. Image credit: David Peinado Romero/Shutterstock.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2vqNr07ibao Podcast audio: