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Identity and Holistic Spirituality with John Kleinig

Outside Ourselves

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The Importance of Spiritual Help in a Secular Society

I'm first and foremost not a scholar but a pastor and I love pastoring people. The psychological kind of approach didn't help people at all it didn't accomplish anything take something like sexual abuse or demonic possession you psychologize that it's you can't help a person who's dying or has been bereaved what do you help do you give? People aren't looking for theory answers to use the old where they're looking for comfort  they're looking for help and supernatural helpnot no that no people don't come to me for psychological care they go to a psychologist or psychologist right They weren't spiritual from me and how do you but how do I do that basically face to face

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