The Meta Game in Debt

I just don't trust myself enough to understand the not like the meta game in debt. I know a lot of business guys who it's not unethical, but they're aggressive,. They'll loan money on a convertible basis with the idea that if the team running its stumbles, I'll get control of it. That's what their objective is. It makes me nervous that you're sometimes you're on the other side of the table from that guy. Now, my one probably not ever going to be on the wrong side of that table. So just backing that whole thing.