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This is an episode of the nobleship leadership b podcast, brought to you by intelligence squared in partnership with havas creative search. In each episode, iam joined by a different inspiration leader who is doing just that, leading change in their worlds. Our guests include american financier and former white house director of communications, anthony scaramoce ontrepiner charmadine read and veteran journal john simpson. Here's our host, have us creative groups, chris hurst, with more.

Chris Hirst, Global CEO of advertising group Havas Creative, cuts through the bullshit and gets to the heart of modern leadership in this straight-talking podcast brought to you by Intelligence Squared.

In this episode, Christ Hirst speaks to Roula Khalaf, the Editor of the Financial Times. In January 2020, Khalaf became the first female editor in the Financial Times’ 134-year history. Her path to the top of the FT came through her work as a foreign correspondent. Born in Lebanon, she served as the FT’s Foreign Editor, reporting from Iraq, Iran and Syria, and leading the FT’s coverage of the Arab Spring. She joined the FT in 1995 as North Africa correspondent after a stint as a staff writer for Forbes magazine in New York, and she now manages 600 journalists across the globe as editor of one of the world’s most respected and recognisable publications.

If you enjoyed this podcast please let us know what you think by rating and reviewing No Bullsh*t Leadership on Apple Podcasts. For updates on the series follow @intelligence2 and @chrishirst on Twitter.

Producer & Editor: Bella Soames;

Technical Support: Mark Roberts.

Chris Hirst is author of the award-winning book No Bulls*ht Leadership: Why the World Needs More Everyday Leaders and Why That Leader Is You.

Podnotes:

00:00 Intro
01:17 Becoming editor during the pandemic
04:59 Increased trust in the media
07:21 Your childhood and growing up in Beirut
10:52 Your take on Carlos Ghosn
12:26 Your first job at Forbes and meeting Jordan Belfort
14:40 Early career as a foreign correspondent
16:24 Your leadership style
17:12 Learning about a new style of management during the pandemic
20:00 What you can and can’t achieve with hybrid working systems
21:28 Your experience as the first female editor of the Financial Times
22:16 Why a diversity of views makes for better journalism
23:52 The difference between leadership near the top of an organisation, and once you become the leader of an organisation
27:45 The FT’s role in highlighting the topics that should be relevant to their readers
30:52 What do you think of Elon Musk buying Twitter?
32:32 What role has failure played in your career?
34:13 A piece advice for somebody taking on a new, big leadership position
35:20 What next?