In the way that you are now approaching learning how to sing, it seems like a very different approach than the way you learned how to make art. Can you talk a little bit of bout how you began to understand what you wanted to do when you were making art? You didn't go to school for art. In you did have an art education at trinity, but it wasn't an art school. And you created your own art education while he was at trinity. After you graduated trinity, i understand you were still hoping to go to art school,. so you applied to the university of chicago. But you ended up also getting in at the cooper union and going there.