#764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck
The Tim Ferriss Show
Embracing Internal Battles
This chapter explores Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, highlighting how understanding and integrating our internal 'parts' can help address emotional struggles like anxiety and depression. It promotes the idea of welcoming anxiety as a transformative element, leading to deeper self-compassion and resolution of personal conflicts.
This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.
The episode features segments from episode #133 "Edward Norton on Mastery, Must-Read Books, and The Future of Crowdfunding" and #732 "Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner 'Integrity Cleanse,' Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety."
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Timestamps:
[00:00] Start
[05:45] Notes about this supercombo format.
[06:48] Enter Edward Norton.
[07:19] Edward's introduction to acting.
[08:45] First theater mentors and what they instilled in Edward.
[12:11] Who comes to mind when Edward hears the word "successful?"
[13:18] Most gifted books.
[14:28] Life-changing essays.
[15:50] Favorite documentaries.
[16:40] Underrated movies.
[18:51] Edward's advice to his younger selves.
[20:09] Community appreciation.
[22:37] Enter Martha Beck.
[23:08] My contribution to teen atrociousness.
[23:40] Connecting with Boyd Varty.
[29:28] The path of not here.
[33:25] Finding joy in the body can save your life.
[38:18] The pregnant pause that ended Martha's obsession with intellect.
[43:52] Sensitivity and suffering.
[47:38] The year of living lie-lessly.
[52:37] An illuminating change of perspective.
[1:02:08] The path to taking a black belt integrity cleanse.
[1:05:36] Owning your right to say "No."
[1:09:39] Alternatives to "No" that remain honest.
[1:13:05] The language of candor.
[1:15:24] Ending relationships that have run their course.
[1:16:30] The Asian influence.
[1:20:20] Sweet or savory?
[1:21:30] Are you comfortable?
[1:23:27] Want vs. yearning and jumping the track.
[1:36:30] Rhino ruminations.
[1:38:00] The Tao Te Ching, Stephen Mitchell, and Byron Katie.
[1:49:13] America's Goethe?
[1:52:15] Weighing kryptonite against superpowers.
[2:00:09] Exploring the opposite of anxiety.
[2:12:55] Dick Schwartz and Internal Family Systems.
[2:17:46] Compassion even for the self's unwanted pieces.
[2:20:14] Favorite animal.
[2:24:52] Equine therapy.
[2:31:00] Selling the ranch.
[2:34:31] The monkey whisperer.
[2:36:00] Parting thoughts.
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