M i too have met scientism as a dirty word and er em. But you're talking about using science to explain things like morality. And i've been rather persuaded, i must say, by recent arguments that i've read suggesting that maybe you do need a premise like suffering is bad. Who's going to deny that suffering is bad? I mean, it seems it'se. It's such an easy premise to accept. Once you accept that, then science takes over. Sigt, science takes over because we can then work out, am what is going to cause suffering. There's room for argument about whether earthworms suffer em - but i don't think we can necessarily settle

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