The Importance of Stillness in Creativity

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"I have obstacle ego and stillness. I haven't done the four virtues for that series yet," he said. "You can work really hard on something do something that's really awesome It can be ahead of its time or it can be swallowed up by news events." The Zen Place would be a place where you're totally self-contained, says Judd Apatow in his new book Discipline is destiny.

Jordan Harbinger is a podcaster, radio personality, entrepreneur and longtime friend of Ryan’s. So when he invited Ryan to come to The West in LA to join him for a live conversation for his podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, Ryan jumped on a plane right away. This is that conversation, in which they discuss how they find their flow states, the ins and outs of teaching Stoicism, cultivating a healthy relationship with work, and more. You can follow Jordan’s work on Twitter @JordanHarbinger and Instagram @jordanharbinger, and on his website www.jordanharbinger.com.

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