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333. Kevin Kelly — ChatGPT, OpenAI, and Excellent Advice for Living

The Michael Shermer Show

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The Importance of Economic Sanctions

"I call myself, I'm not a pacifist, I'm a police-a-fist," he says. "For the most part they're cheaper than conflict and they work most of the time" He doesn't see nuclear weapons being eradicated in his lifetime but thinks it's possible over 100 years.

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