The Importance of Collaboration in Product Design

I'm really interested in your approach to like what do you think could be better because I've definitely got some ideas only here what yours are and then bounce off. It's tempting to get into strict processes that don't have much room for play or pragmatism but not every problem requires the exact same process, he says. He spent a lot of time talking to designers and engineers specifically product folks  to show them how they're not actually listening right? And so if we can just show people where it goes all right well it goes right here and then you do this other thing which is why agile generally doesn’t work according to him. We'll paint for a while and