Corruption and the Dilemma of Nation-Building

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Exploring the complexities of nation-building in Afghanistan, the chapter discusses the challenges of collaborating with warlords engaged in heinous activities and addresses the failures of micro-managing the country.

Sam Harris speaks with Rory Stewart about the fraying world order. They discuss the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the problems with nation building, cultural ignorance, tolerance for corruption, our catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the role that Islam played in our failures in Afghanistan and Iraq, conspiracy theories, the influence of social media, cults of martyrdom, the war in Ukraine, the age of populism, Trump and the future of NATO, Brexit, the current state of politics, GiveDirectly, and other topics.

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