"You can't be ignoredli doing things at a high level. But what scares me is, like to day, i still feel the pull, like any addect," he says. "I want to do it, lests, i just, i don't, from a moralistix samp, i'm not going to do it."
In today’s episode, we try something different: a special two-part conversation in which Cal coaches his longtime friend, comedian and podcast pioneer Jamie Kilstein, through a digital declutter. The first part of the conversation ends with Cal’s prescription for Jamie, while the second part picks up six weeks later to check in on how things actually went.
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