i think there's been such an expectation of women over the years that we have to have children to have like completed life. Er, i've got lots of friends who are like later is, early forties. And er, those who don't have children but want them are certainly, i think, daing in ways that are less healthy because they're so motivated by the thought of running out of time. But also, you know, desperately want kids right now. Ivrit: It's really important not to date out like desperation.

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