Speaker 2
He just knew everything like he knew
Speaker 1
that we just bought a house and he knew that we were having a baby daughter. And she's like, of course, you know, you already knows that.
Speaker 2
He's like, no, no, but it wasn't him. Like the cards knew
Speaker 1
it. And so he was really, he really was on that up to charge him. No, I didn't charge him. Didn't judge me. Next one. But I suppose for me, it's less about that. I don't I don't whip out the cards.
Speaker 2
All is most impressive. Then is your memory on around each card? Did you just like make it totally up on the spot? Or did you use
Speaker 1
there some? I read one, I read there's one book, you know, The Ways of the Terror or whatever. I read about each card two or three times, but now I probably learnt enough about the card and enough about what each one is to then make
Speaker 2
something up. Yeah. Nice. That's good. So
Speaker 1
I suppose for me, I really enjoyed this book because I had that already had that interest. I know Michael Schurma, the guy that we interviewed, he mentioned this book on his podcast. And that's why I picked this one up as well. And like a there was a part of me that was like, I wouldn't mind just learning the tarot cards and stuff. But it's been a much broader application. So learning things that I probably use almost every day now, some of these techniques and statements, not in a psychic reading, but more in a conversation, just speaking to people, mostly at work, you know, trying to get feedback, trying to build rapport, trying to make statements that are correct, but also hedge your bets at the same time without them recognising that you're hedging your bets. Yeah,
Speaker 2
I like it. That's a good one, Asha. I think that, yeah, if you take this book too, literally it's probably not the right way to go about it. It's what you can pull from it and use in different contexts and settings, which I don't think he did it. He could have done a better job of actually making that part literal, but it can be, you
Speaker 1
know, it isn't literal. Yeah, I think interestingly with this book, so this is the full facts of cold reading, and this was very literal on the reading, you know, the cards and the psychic and they're doing actual readings. And then he has another book called Cold Reading for Business, which is more about applying these techniques to the real world. But he lost something in the application sense as well. Like, I thought that book was much worse. Yeah, if you can work out how to read this book and read it as a metaphor for applying it to the real world, I think that's probably the best middle
