The Importance of System Initiative in DevOps

I expected that I would get more tribalism. When the more I started to talk about system initiative, does that make sense? Oh, sure. And I think it's because people are kind of ready. So like whether they're converted to this point of view or the belief that we can figure out how to make it work sort of for everyone and at high scale. Like I do feel like people in general are pretty, pretty resonant with the idea that we need to do something dramatic.

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