We're Going to Decarbonize the Grid, Right?

"I see this, um, hydrogen stuff and this focus on hard to decarbonize sectors. You see it as kind of predatory delay, right? Yes," he says. "We're going to decarbonized our economy by electrifying everything." He thinks biofuels make the most sense for long-distance transport like trains or planes. 'The shipping industry is going to be the last vestige of transport to decarbonizing'