
203. Lee McIntyre — How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason
The Michael Shermer Show
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What's Your Identity?
The difference between identity and ideology is not fungible. Whatever somebody's identity is, they're not going to give it up easily. You can't reason somebody out of something they didn't reason themselves into in the first place. And i think by the way, when you go to a convention, because they're getting, all the strokes are like love fest. Mean, imagine being a flat earth or where you know your family won't talk to you if you don't tell them what you really feel about some things. That would just be so sad. I mean, just look how far the ideology has changed, you know? Just look at those idiots at the trump rally wearing
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