The Church's Affirmation of Gay People

I think he was even saying like look if I asked for volunteers and he didn't make a distinction affirming or not He's like I'll ask the church and I get hardly anybody. It feels like so many people I know that We're raised conservative and then they kind of their eyes are open to how the church has really messed up gay people And then they go affirming. But when you say you're not affirming and then host the conference with a ton of affirming speakers Who are going to sway the audience Then I just don't think that's helpful at all.